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Continue to ChatIt is odd that neither the church nor modern public opinion condemns petting, provided it stops short at a certain point. At what point sin begins is a matter as to which casuists differ. One eminently orthodox catholic divine laid it down that a confessor may fondle a nun's breasts, provided he does it without evil intent. But i doubt whether modern authorities would agree with him on this point. - https://www.relicsworld.com/bertrand-russell/it-is-odd-that-neither-the-church-nor-modern-public-opinion-condemns-author-bertrand-russell